The greek philosopher socrates once told a story about the egyptian god theuth and the king ammon theuth had invented the technology of writing and explained to the king how his new invention would make egyptians wiser and improve their memories ammon didn't agree he could just as easily. Socrates, plato and modern life socrates, memory & the internet matt bluemink uses a socratic argument to assess the influence of the net on our brains and our minds “this invention, o king [writing],” said theuth, “will make the egyptians wiser and will improve their memories for it is an elixir of memory and wisdom that. Dr wolf goes back to look at socrates' objections to writing he worried that reliance on writing would erode memory (it has), but also, and maybe more importantly, that reading would mislead students to think that they had knowledge , when they only had data in the dialog titled phaedrus, socrates tells. Among these were antisthenes (founder of the cynic school), aristippus (the cyrenaic school), xenophon (whose writings would influence zeno of cithium, founder of the stoic school) and, most famously, plato (the main source of our information of socrates in his dialogues) among many others every major philosophical. [headnote: in reading this excerpt from the phaedrus which reports a dialogue between socrates and phaedrus, crucial to your understanding of what bothers socrates about writing is knowing a bit about his history and his own philosophical method socrates himself never wrote anything all his ideas were written down.
Socrates adds to the parable his own conviction that written words are inhuman, unresponsive to questioning, and indiscriminate as to whom they address themselves at best, they can only remind him who knows the matter about which they are written (278) walter ong points out in orality and literacy that these. Miami university has an excerpt from the phaedrus, a dialog between socrates and someone named — wait for it — phaedrus, that plato wrote presumably, plato didn't misrepresent socrates' ideas in these dialogs, and socrates did not seem to write anything down: pretty much all we know about his. But it is one thing to claim that plato was not the only one to write socratic dialogues, and quite another to hold that plato was only following the rules of some genre of writings in his own work such a claim, at any rate, is hardly established simply by the existence of these other writers and their writings we may still wish to. “if men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls they will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks what you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder and it is no true.
As mentioned earlier, socrates' life and work are surrounded by mystery he did not write any philosophical works or left any writings the knowledge we have about him both as a historical figure and philosopher is based exclusively on later classical writings uncertainty regarding socrates' life and work which is known as. So socrates loved good conversations, which he called dialectic, and disdained bad conversations, which he called eristic, as i described in the previous post of this series on socrates but that actually opens up lots and lots of fascinating and difficult issues for instance: the relative value of the spoken and. The first critique of writing plato's phaedrus (from plato in twelve volumes, vol 9, translated by harold n fowler cambridge, ma, harvard university press london, william heinemann ltd 1925 http://wwwperseustuftsedu) socrates[ 274c] i heard, then, that at naucratis, in egypt, was one of the ancient gods of that.
Socrates was a classical greek (athenian) philosopher credited as one of the founders of western philosophy, and as being the first moral philosopher, of the western ethical tradition of thought an enigmatic figure, he made no writings, and is known chiefly through the accounts of classical writers writing after his lifetime,. Previously, i shared a curmudgeonly 1889 article about the menace of electricity and the telephone and its spiritual cousin, a fifteenth-century screed lamenting the printing press i'm collecting data here in service of a hypothesis that progress is universally despised, that the “get off my lawn you.
Today, i want to take a moment to comment on the inappropriate use of a certain socratic dialogue, namely, phaedrus why the phaedrus i keep seeing plato's phaedrus appear in discussions of new technologies in particular, the following passage has become quite popular (the section in boldface is. In a nutshell, nobody knows for sure we can make educated guesses, based on what we believe about the culture and customs of ancient greece socrates' students. Only a simpleton, said socrates, would trust his thoughts to writing he was as good as his word, too we only know what he said because it was written down by his most famous pupil, plato or, at least, plato wrote down what he said socrates said many people seem to attribute these particular thoughts to.